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	<title>Comments on: What is the project goal?</title>
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		<title>By: Craig Brown</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One particular technique is an analysis of project drivers using weighted scoring.

You pull together a bunch of criteria, get everyone ot agree on the right weights and then assess.

Criteria can be generated via a series of things like business strategy, stated goals, customer satisfaction, financial, time constraints, reputaion etc.

Put up a model, and have the client and stakeholders score (or rank) them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One particular technique is an analysis of project drivers using weighted scoring.</p>
<p>You pull together a bunch of criteria, get everyone ot agree on the right weights and then assess.</p>
<p>Criteria can be generated via a series of things like business strategy, stated goals, customer satisfaction, financial, time constraints, reputaion etc.</p>
<p>Put up a model, and have the client and stakeholders score (or rank) them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ramm</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Craig, I absolutely agree with you. I was going to propose the same strategies as you did, only it took me too long :-)

I believe that as a project manager you should be honest to your customer and if you have a better solution you should propose it. The problem is that sometimes the upper management of your company wouldn&#039;t allow you to make such a proposal to the customer. They believe that doing what the customer wants is the best way to serve them and the easiest way to become successful in business.

I am not a big fan of the agile approach but I definitely support the idea of the incremental delivery. But to do that you must have a customer who is actively interested in the outcome of the project. I have many examples in my professional life of customers who didn&#039;t care at all about the project. It was just an unpleasant obligation they had to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Craig, I absolutely agree with you. I was going to propose the same strategies as you did, only it took me too long <img src='http://pmstories.com/en/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I believe that as a project manager you should be honest to your customer and if you have a better solution you should propose it. The problem is that sometimes the upper management of your company wouldn&#8217;t allow you to make such a proposal to the customer. They believe that doing what the customer wants is the best way to serve them and the easiest way to become successful in business.</p>
<p>I am not a big fan of the agile approach but I definitely support the idea of the incremental delivery. But to do that you must have a customer who is actively interested in the outcome of the project. I have many examples in my professional life of customers who didn&#8217;t care at all about the project. It was just an unpleasant obligation they had to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Brown</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike

I am absolutely in favour of taking the time to explain the implications of badly articulated requirements.

But of they don&#039;t listen?  What then?

I am also a believer that if you truly know your client&#039;s business you&#039;ll be able to deliver a better solution than they can desribe.

But how do you &#039;sell&#039; them on the concept of your having that insight?

Two broad strategies
1. Build up your trust points through a series of well executed and successful projects
2. Have a look at the incremental delivery associated with the agile approach.

What do you think?

(PS have a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.betterprojects.net/2008/07/hapy-flu.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this game&lt;/a&gt;; want to play?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike</p>
<p>I am absolutely in favour of taking the time to explain the implications of badly articulated requirements.</p>
<p>But of they don&#8217;t listen?  What then?</p>
<p>I am also a believer that if you truly know your client&#8217;s business you&#8217;ll be able to deliver a better solution than they can desribe.</p>
<p>But how do you &#8217;sell&#8217; them on the concept of your having that insight?</p>
<p>Two broad strategies<br />
1. Build up your trust points through a series of well executed and successful projects<br />
2. Have a look at the incremental delivery associated with the agile approach.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>(PS have a look at <a href="http://www.betterprojects.net/2008/07/hapy-flu.html" rel="nofollow">this game</a>; want to play?)</p>
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		<title>By: georgim</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>georgim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll vote for taking customers money...
It&#039;s a clever move from your side to warn customer (in written form) if you can see the issue in advance, but don&#039;t bother if the customer does not pay attention (usually they are not [paying attention]) to your warnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll vote for taking customers money&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s a clever move from your side to warn customer (in written form) if you can see the issue in advance, but don&#8217;t bother if the customer does not pay attention (usually they are not [paying attention]) to your warnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ramm</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, it&#039;s just the theme. Look at the bottom of the page for a link to the theme&#039;s site. I think I did just a little tweaking and changed the main picture on the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, it&#8217;s just the theme. Look at the bottom of the page for a link to the theme&#8217;s site. I think I did just a little tweaking and changed the main picture on the top.</p>
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		<title>By: what is a customer</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>what is a customer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldron</title>
		<link>http://pmstories.com/2008/06/11/project-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waldron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you tell me who did your layout?  I&#039;ve been looking for one kind of like yours.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you tell me who did your layout?  I&#8217;ve been looking for one kind of like yours.  Thank you.</p>
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